haste bot can any one squash the rumors?

[sydewayz]

switch works ... switch doesn't work .... switch works but.... me personally i would never use switch , i like the free weapon slot way too much ... but it would be nice to be able to end the debate ... any answers out there?

[Butsutekkai]

Everyone told me to put 4 points into haste bot then swap for a cast set. I trust this mainly because i did/do this for examle on my evo for VA or concenrtate dmg.
CD don t have any proof but VA was clearly at 10 by swapping.

[Mobius]

Yes it works, provided you have atleast (1) skill point in it to begin with. I use weapon switch for Haste bot/ Bomber bot and Construct drone/ Master eng. Never had any problems with it so far. And yes everything maintains the level it was summoned at. I test it everynow and then to make sure none of the updates sneeks anything in.

EDIT: I just read on the game forum that if a party member leaves the haste bot field and reenters they will be at the lower summoned level. I'll have to test this out.

[electrofux]

switch works, easily testable, done it numerous times ;-)

[thumper]

First I've heard of this rumour(s). I use a summon set that calls in a 10/10 HB, my assumption is that it remains at 10/10 unless resummoned without the proper set. Leaving the field of a 10/10 HB and then re-entering should provide the same effect - unless I am reading this wrong?

I also use (for solo boss runs in Abyss) a +6 Spidermine set with no points in Spidermine and it works fine...

[zart]

I switch for reaper summoning which adds +5 to my reaping. When I switch back i am still running a 40 second Reaper so i certainly works in this case too.

[sydewayz]

thanks for the replys guys ... yeah its the whole leaving the field thing that has me wondering.... like i said personally i keep z (ccm beast) in one slot, spl bolters in one and  thor (demon ccm)in final slot ... so i wouldnt have the room if i wanted it for a swap ... was just one of those things i have heard so many different mechanics on .... and a ton of theories since i have it maxxed i cant test it with friends... so if any gets bored enough to do that thanks

[Mobius]

Well I have played around with leaving and re-entering the haste bot field. When you re-enter the field it sometimes updates to the unswitched HB bonus, +3 in my case. Those times if you wait (10 - 30 sec or so ) and recheck it has gone back to the +10 bonus of the original summon.

So as far as I can tell you still get the full benifit of HB when you re-enter the field it just takes the game a little but to update everything. Not sure if the delay is server or client side though.

Anyone else get different results?

[thumper]

Since I last posted I experienced a few glitches during Berial Hell runs where the MM and Evoker kept saying that HB was not active... so there may be something to this rumour. I don't think it has to do with the +skill summons though, I have 7 in HB without any gear and the party members were saying that HB was not taking effect at all. I had to dismiss and resummon.

As shocking as it may sound, there might be some sort of a bug in this game....

[Yandor]

An old bug seems to be showing up more often, enemies that stop taking and dealing damage for a while, its like the engine forgets they exist, then remembers. It may be unrelated but it adds to the impression of something shonky in the combat record keeping.